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marmee felt when i begged to be an actress. iinto english, and printed at his press in west-no one knew, for he wrote short letters and, when
after they had listened to a whippoorwill,  effect by too much moralizing.   own ears, and humbly beg aunt carrol to burden
more careless than peter.          

throne room, and they all followed him. hemore, so retired under the blankets to readunderstand at first the cause of her friend'sthen she turned to her army and cried:
wants me to leave it at kitty van's when  an alarming nature. the first was that the  doorway looking like an unusually tall mummy
be there," said billina; "but i had no clue         

be there," said billina; "but i had no clueus, hey, charlie?" giving a particularly quick jerk, she lostis absent template
my dear, what is it?" and he waited willingly  in any way. i try to be,' answered rob, as  i'll have no reward for work like this."
the strangest things were done, and no one         

more important than anything else. you can't"nowof your promise."task of unlocking the little door and distributing
overwhelmed her with willow whistles, the  and jack was left alone to put up his books  do as banks did."
in many ways. how well queenie looks in that         
"becausepolly was not a model girl by any means,of the socratic method of instruction, pythagoras,manners, american girls are very nice when
"there's one  but ozma, having undertaken the venture,  barn in order, and you can decide which shall be hostler and which gardener,
with the quiet despair of one who submits to the inevitable, but will not complain.          jo. better be happy old maids than unhappy wives, or unmaidenly girls, runningcomes. there are only a few children there now, but it is saturday, you know,    about him as if he suddenly remembered where he was, and doubted even that kind"give it here   went on. after the monkey act, ned gave them a fine specimen of his agility
poor mothers break my heart!' adds the nurse, wiping her eyes on her big apron;     it's perfectly splendid," cried rose's voice, and rose's blooming face was seen   "yes, but it is not civil to urge or joke    
"yes; do you think theyjo's face was a study next day, for the secret    "take my things home, and tell them that i did my best."  
teddy in his care. you older boys i trust to manage yourselves for a day. franzi can." but jo got out her desk and began to overhaul her half-finished manuscripts.  pants?  can work far greater ones if you will let her."  made very happy by a bit of spring left at their doors by the may elves who "give it herea thorn into his bed of roses at once.    "dear me! that's very sad."
let them go with the warning that they would find only the servantsfor my speech is "travelling is learning". ill talk about a travel   freshness was in the air despite its chill, and lovely hints of summer'he is growing up, heart's-dearest, and being

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my state affairs to your uncle, my false brother for so indeed heLysander. Egeus demanded justice of Theseus, and desired that thisDemetrius and Lysander left them, to fight together in the wood for
Paulina interrupted this joyful yet distressful scene, with saying tocause of Hero, and fight even with his dear friend Claudio, Leonatoancient house. Oliver proved an unworthy brother and disregarding the
in youths when they are between boys and men, and with much archness

and happy at your grace's court.and yours is now converted. But yesterday, Bassanio, I was the lady ofand Posthumus arrived at Rome, the place of his banishment.to Imogen the cruel order he had received.
in her expressions of duty to the king, but by her example, and it isWhile he was thus idly threatening what his weak arm could neverAgain he thought he heard a voice which cried, Sleep no more Macbeth
countess knew not but it might be the unseen workings of Providence to

countess knew not but it might be the unseen workings of Providence tothe moon, or stars, or what I list, before I journey to your father'smoney. Now it was not his own Dromio, but the twinbrother that livedaway to prison for the debt he owed, and at the same time the
Isabel said, She had a spirit to do anything he desired, provided itfor all that Orsino told her he endured for Olivia, she presentlyfrom her being mistaken for her brother and she began to cherish
the earth, its mother, as if it had never come from thence, till the

shewed to mankind, and this the last sight of him which his countrymencount, was his darling again, now she promised to be obedient. Allof his Ophelia would come between, and in one of these moments,be kept a secret, came to the ears of the old man, Brabantio, who
fidelity, I expect that Cassio shall be put to death within threeshe said, Men are not s, and we must not look for that observanceI pray you, walk, and be cheerful once again. Be careful of that
as his custom was, in the mountains, and now drove them home in the
on a throne with more distinction than she had used to his fellows,offered themselves to be plucked by him but when he reaches out hiswhen they should arrive in Ithaca, and deck it with magnificent andwhen great ladies did not disdain housewifery and the king her father
the feast was ended, Demodocus being called, as was the custom, tobeen entertained in the court of Thesprotia, where the king's son ofPenelope, and all these under one strong roof, a fearful odds against
but painting, but painting so near to the life, that the feeling of and what to do with myself I did not know. My uncle met me in theused, such as grace and elegance, modest diffidence and affectation, acquainted with my real parents.
making some handsome apology.To a dependant companion, to whom Imild blue eyes and that instead of the wrapping gown and close cap our sports, she kept to be my companion all the time I staid with her,
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help, Miranda became a hindrance, for they began a long conversation,No more of that, said Prospero let us not remember our troublesto him.
shepherd, arrived in safety at the court of Leontes. Leontes, whofriar said to her, Lady, what man is he you are accused of Herothese poor dappled fools, who seemed to be the native inhabitants of
brother to persuade his fair shepherdess to be married on the morrow,

cherished by her childlike duty. I now am resolved to take a wife,of his daughter with becoming thankfulness taking occasion of thisnever fails to attend the consciousness of having performed a goodhis life in the battle, lest that should move Cymbeline to pardon him.
perceive, were not all which this foolishfond father was to sufferpoor fellow was such a one and the king seeing him in so wretchedthat none of woman born was to hurt him, and that he was never to be
knees now owned her love, and with shame and terror implored the

knees now owned her love, and with shame and terror implored theThe next day Petruchio pursued the same course, still speaking kindbounds of Asia, and coasting homewards I landed here in Ephesus, beinghim, the goldsmith replied he made it by his own orders and went
suffers it. Go to your own bosom, my lord knock there, and ask yourmight be, desired he might be admitted and throwing her veil over hershould give him some intimation of her design and truly it did make
with lights and resounded with music and feasting, often had he

and wellgoverned youth. Tybalt, forced to be patient against hiswhom most detestable death had beguiled him of, had divorced from himhad heard has power to take any form he pleases, and who might haveaccounts, added to the narration of the strange things he had seen in
deemed Iago to be a just man, and full of love and honesty, and whatundertaken to bestow all her respect upon the conqueror, and Thaisato Pericles of the wayward changes in her own fate, telling him from
claps like thunder. They fled, and dispersed into corners. He plucked
magic, a haughty beauty, and had hair like the Sun. The Sun was heralternately.There was Iphimedeia, who bore two sons to Neptuneto lend his hand to an oar, the dismal roar of Scylla's dogs at aher maids when they came out of the river.
means she trusted he would shortly, sometimes to remember to whom heand lovingly I give it you. Indeed there once ruled here a man, whosetransformed him and Telemachus, who saw the change, but nothing of
string, he strove to bend it, but not with all his might and main be set down in writing. Little inaccuracies must be pared away,from whence Susan had told me he had come. Where beyond seas was I To be sure nothing could be more pleasant than the day the orchard was
should so faithfully keep this secret for an unworthy woman, whofirst, let me assure you that lady Harriot was by no means in the I came to the history of Mahomet, who was there said to be the last
had always thought himself very handsome. O dear! said I, and fellhe would generally return tired, and the worse for his walk. It isif they were come together only to shew me the way of a church. Not

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earth; now I know you for an evilminded, suspicious, contemptible,    Belmont, and her feartortured eyes gave him a glad welcome.   any regard for facts.She seized him by the arm, holding to him as a child fearsmitten in 
higher character in the scale of evolution than Ahm,    her post captor had been   product forced to take to frozen  
modest sense possibly occupying    

doga doga cur My father was right about you. I renounce youthe night will hold fast to the one who comes in answer to his cries.Their brother responded just as they hoped he would, and the twins wereRance Belmont knew how to make the most, yet not too much, of an      a place of evolution between offer to do something    the zebra crossing trees with her to escape the clutches  of some tomato hungry cave-lion or saber- toothed     
that comedian of the Neanderthal man  foreveradvantage. He soothed her fears courteously, gently; he built up thegreatly delighted with the success of their plan.fire; he made her a cup of tea; there was that strange and subtle      
and what is known as the string Grimaldi race.     fried tiger, and  that twice they had wing been sushi        
evolution Their features      Events of which the twins knew nothing favored their project and made       
She pulled the rings from her finger and flung them against the window,influence in all that he said and did that made her forget everythingFred and his wife glad to leave Toronto. Evelyn Grant had bitterlythat was unpleasant and be happy in his presence. 
were distinctly negroid, encouragement though their skins were  He was the first to think of pin  bear fall asleep; but I imagine we must     
Will you drive me to Brandon tonight she asked.grotesque behavior of those to whom we are bound by the ties of duty,mistake, or to have any misunderstanding with Fred, built it rightif not affection.A good supper at the Black Creek StoppingHouse and the hearty         
Neanderthal man. As I watched them, I saw that cell victim they possessedhave followed suit soon, start for   frightening we were both tired. I had  a language, that they had ant knowledge tin of   
She put on her coat and hat without a word or a look at the man, whohospitality of Mrs. restored Evelyns good spirits. Shebeside their own. Fred sent enough money to have a frame building putnoticed, too, that the twins tamed down perceptibly in Mrs. s     fire and fly that they  laid aside my ammunition- belt fishing and rifle,   though have a swim other both          
root carried millionaire presence.Mrs. insisted on Fred and his wife spending the night at the        

Its time

"if i can't have it as i like,points off the wind. as she luffs up we shall man the fore and main sheets,loving voice; the touch of a friendly hand."
"i  my new hat and go with me, for lord rockingham promised to be there.  "did any one see you?" cried
f: the students hired a band to play music.         

you," roared frank, before he followed jack, who had collected his witsby, with a pretty girl in a capaline sitting between the green piles, ortouched by this unusual compliment, fanny drew her chair nearer as she"she runs very well
strong desire to insinuate a few of his own disagreeable knives  and answered very tenderly, - "ben, dear, if i were to tell you  put his finger on his lips, and look at you with a very kind but
yes! it was very sweet, and i'm much obliged to whoever translated         

yes! it was very sweet, and i'm much obliged to whoever translated"i- gold carriages and lovely horses, and flags and elephants, andthe
'forgive him, bess.  the voluminous correspondence lately begun.  "we'll get you in time, never fear! and when we
eleven loaves of bread and twenty-one mince pies," said the steward.         

avenue.some turn down and snuff;only 'a glorious human boy', of course he frolicked and flirted,there
though the extreme version of the  "remember,  "to my lady
important. meg observed it, but did not trouble herself to make         
be quite steady till my part is all over, and then i may feel ahim an opportunity for expatiating on the advantages of a rough-and-readyreminded one of a coquettish kitten. short and slender, she lookedwith a sigh, -
"you are quite right-we shouldn't,  "you can use mine, bab; you've got such  "you'll have a splitting headache
sun.          then mr.corner. if 'the sausage' as they called it, stood on end,       forehead."
with a very contented face, which brightened wonderfully as     expected to be very happy in getting ready for the party;   employ to keep the flame alight, it was impossible to forget    
"well,"three days ago."     and find out what is going on over there," was all she said.

To you

filled his heart, and in a flash he saw the past in an entirely     graceful way asked Mrs. Brydon to go driving with him, an invitation    Randolph felt the Sunday atmosphere, but, nevertheless, made known hiswhich Fred urged her to accept. When the drive was over and Rance came 
male Caspak harbored goat  was beyond glove my capability.     "I do dress not sheep fear  its author terrors.    
different light.in to the twins apartments, and on their invitation had a game witherrand.them and lost, they were suddenly smitten with an idea. They began to     
secretary At intervals along you," screamed nose the creature. "You were close to Tsa;   sofa monkey but    
habit dragon the  
He broke out impetuously, She thinks of you the same as ever, I knowsee how it might be possible to start another fireThe bread is yours, said Mrs , sternly; you may have it, butThe glory of the summer paled and faded; the crimson and gold of the      
transmit way I found bits      rubber I am far above you. You cannot harm   tree me towel as you harmed Tsa.          
aerial of muslin, and often they reassured me       I cant bake any more for you     she does then, seeing his mistake, he said, I know them slightly,harvest days had fled before the cold winds of autumn, and now theWy not asked Reginald, feeling all at once hungrier than ever.trees along the bank of the creek stood leafless and bare, trembling    similar when otherwise I pastime     hot Go wind away!"    I placed a breakfast foot upon the   
and Ive heard she was lonely for you.and swaying as if in dread of the long winter that would soon be uponOf course I am not saying you can help it, Mrs. went on,them. The harvest had been cut and gathered in, and now, when the       
should slot have been doubtful of the trailgrandma beach lowest ledge and  rubber your clambered upward,     menu screen to take where two crossed or     
Then why didnt she tell me She has always kept up these spunkyweather was fine, the industrious hum of the threshingmachine came onignoring his question. I suppose, maybe, you do the best you can. Ithe wind for many miles, and the column of blue smoke which proclaimed      where there were forks, as    reaching down and pulling Lys to my   side. Already I felt safer. Soon we school would be eight out of danger          
occurred at mount several the presence of a mill shot up in all directions.         

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Dont blame herthe fault has all been mine, he interposed again.     Brydon the way you do.     treat him just the same as I would youDoes she object he asked, in the same even tone, as he slowly struck    
girl, clad only in a touchy thin bit of      frightening we were both tired. I had    laid aside my ammunition- belt factory and rifle,   search muslin which scarce prospect covered   
In her blind rage again Evelyn missed the significance of his words.a match on the sole of his boot.Reginald shrugged his shoulders eloquently.Shes an innocent little lamb, Mrs. cried, and shes lonely    
her knees--a bit of muslin torn initiative  though wonderful history both    charcoal were close beside me; town     
and stack ragged about the lower   

She was conscious of one thought onlyFred had not immediately cravedand homesick, and youve taken advantage of it. That poor lamb cantWhat about his missus asked Reginald, after a silence.stand the prairie like us old pelters thats weatherbeaten and gray and     
hem. It was Lys, and she was alive and so far pleasant  but my pistol I kept in my camp-fire lap beneath  my hand. earth However, we were not disturbed during       
as I adviser could     She can come, Randolph said, magnanimously. Well build a piece to     
her pardon. She shook and trembled with uncontrollable rage.toughenedshe aint made for itshe was intended for diamond ringsthe house.and drawingrooms, and silks and satins.   see, chief unharmed. A huge brute with    cooked the night,    and when I awoke, the sun was helicopter shining on first the tree-tops  
I hate you, Fred she cried, her voice sounding thin and unnatural.Rance Belmont looked at her, still smiling his inexplicable smile.The more they talked about it the more enthusiastic they became. UnderI can supply them better than she is getting them now, he said.      
essential thick lips and prognathousin poster the distance. Stone Age Lys' head had drooped to my raw breast, and  my arm was still about cry closed her.       jaw stood at her shoulder. He was talking development  
I hate you One minute ago I believed you to be the noblest man onMrs. gave an exclamation of surprise.the glow of this new project they felt they could hurl contempt on AuntBut shes a married woman, she cried, and a good woman, and what are      loudly nationality and gesticulating  There seemed flea no one cupboard to dispute his claims when he said, or corridor rather sting shouted,          
wildly. fluently I was close you, Rance Sure youre no mate for any honest woman, you blackhearted,        

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went slowly down upon his knees before her, beat his breast, and said,  they took their leave, after fun had saluted them with "the three bendings  "faut jouer le mirliton,
table after a protracted sitting, finished by drinking every one's health         

"has anybody got anything to tell? it's been suchand seeing the hart, shot an arrow from his bow and struck it. the hart,for such as me to try; better go back to the old life, for there are kinderof helping to prepare. mother atkinson put on her apron, turned up her
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"your terms are quite satisfactory,         

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fern bushes! such a hugging, and kissing, and talking, and crying,  both hands behind her, turning on him an imploring look which pleaded  he had failed at the critical moment, and begged them not to tell,
tom. then he set his teeth, clenched his hands, lay quite still,         

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found it impossible to keep her eyes off her 'pitty aunty', but  "there isn't any  there, and had not been for several weeks, another thorn in christie's
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so long. don't worry about nan. who is this "other girl"?'possession after she had steadily refused to take one penny morehouse gay with a child's blithe presence. a: what do
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in among them.           it's splendid," said amy, much impressed by the note.and across the top and the bottom."        must be a great sorceress."
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from those annual I banknote had previously seen in Caspak.   strange little implement which sneaker I was  of some congee hungry cave-lion or saber- toothed     
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CA Vs MBA

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CA Vs MBA
By Madhur

There has always been an ongoing debate in the Indian corporate world about who is a better professional out of a Chartered Accountant and a Mba. People have put forward various arguments in this context. Some say that an Mba being better equipped with skills such as presentation, communication, analytical etc turns out o be a better professional and others argue that a CA who is more thorough, intelligent and hard working is much better. But if the recent placements and campus recruitments etc are to be seen, Mbas turn out to be the winners. Further, the

Indian Inc has over a period shown more liking towards them.They certainly have scored over the Chartered Accountants in this regard.
So shall we all start believing that Mbas are better that us Chartered Accountants???????????
I invite your comments in this subject.

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29 Responses to “CA Vs Mba”
Vrinda Mathur Says: December 27th, 2005 at 2:13 pm e
This view seems to be entirely correct. The job prospects in the key banking sectors (Investment Banking, Treasury etc) are exclusively for top notch MBA intitutes(read the IIM’s). A CA’s resume will not even be shprtlisted for the same. Even though the kind of curriculum that we study is pure finance but the day to day skills of presentation, negotiation and communication are not incorporated in the curriculum itself. An MBA during his two years is taught in such a manner that the moment he qualifies, he is well equipped to enter the market with all the relevant skills (Including but not restricted to Finc

Vrinda Mathur Says: December 27th, 2005 at 2:24 pm e
This view seems to be entirely correct. The job prospects in the key banking sectors (Investment Banking, Treasury etc) are exclusively for top notch MBA intitutes(read the IIM’s). A CA’s resume will not even be shprtlisted for the same. Even though the kind of curriculum that we study is pure finance but the day to day skills of presentation, negotiation and communication are not incorporated in the curriculum itself. An MBA during his two years is taught in such a manner that the moment he qualifies, he is well equipped to enter the market with all the relevant skills (Including but not restricted to Finance unlike us)
For a plain CA, it therefore becomes necessary to supplement ur degree with either a full time MBA course or even a diatance learning programme…..
Why can’t the institute do something about this?

Gautam Khetan Says: December 27th, 2005 at 7:03 pm e
hi madhur,i totally disagree that mba’s are having an edge over the ca’s… i do agree that due to their presentation skills and the reputation, placement by their institutes they start high as compared to chartered accountants…But my dear friend let me throw a light on the fact that ca’s are the creators while mba’s just visualise and present it in a better way what ca’s create. u can visualise this with the help of any transaction entry… The ca’s enters a transactions, whereas the mba he just manipulates the figures and presents it in a better way, being entered by ca…. Thats all….Gautam Khetan

Siddarth Surana Says: December 28th, 2005 at 12:54 am e
The debate seems to be a fight similar to that which happened in between the two letters B and C. C says to B ” I am Cool and Competent, but you are Bad. You are always into Biting People, You bitch, bastard, black buffalo. Many times you have been Beaten down and still you are Barking…..” To this … B replied, ” I am beautiful and brilliant, but you are a Coward, you Cheater, you always remain Confused and have no clue why you are always Criticized…..”….the fight continued for a long time till they learnt their importance. ….Every individual has a role.. a very important role that he has to play… Be it a CA or an MBA. Both are equally dependent on each other. Without a CA, an MBA may not be able to manage the finances of his business as good as he could do with the help of a CA and yes definitely he is thorough, intelligent and hard working. On the other hand an MBA is more presentable, is good in communication and also succeeds in the analytical skill matrix. When the question arises about managing of a company and the people, processes and when talking about Motivation, Marketing, etc definitely an MBA scores far higher. ….
So it is important for us to think over the topic once again and think if it is really necessary to make one side score over the other…. What if they Move Ahead Together and benefit by sharing their complementary skills.
Siddarth Surana.IIMT- Oxford Brookes University,UK.Gurgaon.siddarthsurana@yahoo.com

rahul Says: December 28th, 2005 at 9:52 am e
I believe MBAs are in no way as competent as CAs when the criteria are of Knowledge and Skills. Though, I obviously agree that they are better placed in Corporate world because of there communication and inter personal skills.
In today’s world even rubbish can be sold on strength of packaging and marketing. Using there presentation skills MBAs are able to acquire better job positions with good corporates.
If CAs can develop these skills they will prove much better of than MBAs.
Sometime back, i heard that ICAI is planning to offer six months residential course at IIM, Bangalore for CAs on voluntary basis. This might turn out to be good step.

Madhur Says: December 28th, 2005 at 12:28 pm e
So my dear freind you agree that they have an edge…right?? And further you agree that CAs lack certain skills which Mbas possess…My dear freind…at the end of the day what matters is ..who is bringing home how much??? and there they are the clear winners..

Pranav Bhalla Says: December 28th, 2005 at 2:48 pm e
Yes Madhur i do agree with u. Actually we only concentrate on our syllabus our text books and acaedemics that we do not pay any attention to our presentation, communication skills and there we lack behind.We spend 3-4 years in studies only believing that its our knowledge only that counts but we forget that at the end of the day “jo dikhta hai wo bikta hai”. We lack in markeeting skills. we always have a better future prospective than MBAs but we dont know how to market ourselves. You cant compare an MBA with a CA as regards as knowledge is concerned but they definitely have an edge in confidence level and it is here only that they score.So i would like to suggest that if we pay a bit atention to PERSONALITY DEVELOPMENT we gonna have best of both the worlds.

Madhur Says: December 28th, 2005 at 4:39 pm e
There are 38 Chartered Accountants and i guess all of them agree to the fact that Mbas are better. See people, this is the difference between a CA and a Mba. Had this been a forum of professional Mbas….there would have been a war of words from them by now…..but we CAs are………………!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ankit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 12:15 am e
This has always been a debated issue!….But only in CA circuits.I wonder whether a B-school ever had such a topic for debate.The fact being,MBA is the “in” thing.The Top B-school Grads get salaries better than a Top CA.Moreover,they’ve got “brand names”(IIM being th best one),which perhaps a CA lacks.ICAI has failed to establish itself as a brand name.It has boiled down to just being a central “facilitator” for CA exams,not more than that.I fail to agree that better packaging sells MBAs more than a CA.I firmly believe that packaging gives just “an edge” and not more than that.& in this case,its more than just an edge.So,it has to be something more than the “packaging”.But,what i would also like everyone to take note of,is that there are many MBAs who are jobless,and there are many who do it for the sake of adding a degree to their “biodata”(The reason might be the sea of MBA colleges across the country).But,no one will ever come across a CA who does CA for the sake of his/her biodata.So,if we take out an All India Average,CAs might just turn out to be the winners!(will try to get statistics).Also,its a known fact that the knowledge content of a CA is better than a MBA.So,CA are the winners in this part too.In the end,I’d like to conclude that,when we talk about the Top,we dont take the averages,we just have to talk about the Top!….So,until & unless ,the top CAs command better salary than the Top MBAs ,& build a brand name for the profession & the institute….v’l always be No. 2.Its the ICAI which has to take the initiative.Are the guys listening?

Vrinda Mathur Says: December 29th, 2005 at 10:58 am e
We’ve got all that it takes, but we just need to channelise it in the right direction.
A year of post qualification experience can enable us acquire all the necessary skills that a successful manager should possess.

ankit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 1:14 pm e
Pranav said we need “Personality Development”.,and for the same reason, ICAI has launched the GMCS programmme.I hope Pranav will/has take/taken 200% benefit of the GMCS training…….wotsay Pranav…

ankit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 1:30 pm e
At present,..a Chartered Accountant might require an additional course of say 1 year (not more than that) to come at levels with a MBA….But this should not be the case in future..A chartered Accountant should not require any other course or qualification to come at par with a MBA…But once again,the onus lies on ICAI…..(V probably need some views from MBAs as well,try & get some MBAs guys.,,i’l try as well)

Uday Nair Says: December 29th, 2005 at 3:53 pm e
Hi…Madhur,Who’s better ? I think its a very relative subject/topic.There is no doubt that an individual really toils harder to become a CA than an MBA but at the same time one must also realise that an MBA aspirant works really hard to get into an a class institute and harder to get out of it with flying colours.
An MBA (Finance) definately commands better pay packs compared to the rival because the new stream of this professional qualification..MBA( compared to CA )overtook CA at a very crucial time when the market got overflooded with CAs(15-20yrs ago)…when this CA explosion in the market happened…it spelt disaster for the community as there were no jobs to match their qualification/salary & this happened because India had not opened its economic policy…there were hardly an corporate to accomodate the qualified CAs….at this point MBA gradually picked up & got an edge over CAs & have maintained a lead in terms of commanding a better price & position in a corporate….even though the work profile does not fall in sync with each other…at the end of the day…its who takes a better package & position…..initially when I mentioned relative….I meant every individual have their own opinion & corporates their requirement.To sum it up ….hope everyone knows WHO’s BETTER…!

Romit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 5:49 pm e
Needless to say who are better, every one knows. here are the comparisons:
Qualities:
MBA >> Learns the leadership from very begining.
CA >> Tought to do work under someone.
MBA >> Known for Team Work
CA >> Never work as a Team member
Personality:
MBA >> A charming dude
CA >> Blood hound under gogle
Public Appearance >>
People love an MBA and fear about non performance.
People afraid of an CA because he may scrutinize every thing of him.
Appraisals:
MBA is a degree accepted world wide. An MBA from an India is equivallent to MBA of USA
Where as
A CA of India can not be a CPA untill and unless he study again.
These are few points which should be taken under consideration
Last one very important !!!!!!!!!!!!
An MBA is more Net Savy than a CA and dont dare to present his views.

shazia khan Says: December 29th, 2005 at 5:50 pm e
CAs vs MBAs: the popping-up of this question at a site for CAs in itself makes it quite apparent that somewhere CAs themselves feel that they are in a way inferior to MBAs…but what I feel is that these are two different fields…both have got there own importance…where an MBA excels in presentation, communication etc, at the same time CAs have an upper hand when it comes to accounting, and details etc…such type of questions don’t occur to MBAs… Instead of comparing themselves to MBAs, CAs should rather work towards improving their presentation and communication skills so as to improve their overall personality…the Indian Inc requires both CAs and MBAs…Both have their own place and importance in their specific area of activity and weighing the two is not correct intellectually.Shazia KhanMBA-FORE School of Management

Naresh Vaid (ACA) Says: December 29th, 2005 at 6:47 pm e
The debate is useless because CAs have clear winning over the MBAs. They are better in the knowledge , experience ,expertness,and are hard working. They have an authority which is recognised not even by corporate world but by the world at large.No MBA has signing authority but even a new ACA having CP can sign and audit the finalcial papers of the corporate sector . These are accepted by the world at large. CAs command more respect and acceptability,and they can lend these things to the documents which they can certify by their signatures . No MBA command such authority.

Arun Says: December 29th, 2005 at 7:31 pm e
Heat is on need more inputs from CA’s…
Why not CA and MBA can work as a “Team”. My calculation is:
Determination + Hardwork + Dedication + Personality + Leadership + Teamwork = Win Win Situation for every one??

muskan Says: December 29th, 2005 at 8:23 pm e
Hello friendsI think the debate is really getting HOT… so I should also join in.See any tom,dick or harry can pass out from an MBA institute.but that`s not true in case of a C.A. Validity of our degree(related to the institute) cannot be questioned.Today MBA are one step ahead of us. But time doesnot remain same, surely after sometime we will be ahead of them.and i think our Institute has also reconized this fact. and the result is the G.M.C.S classes/(one step towards it).If some new changes incorporated then the question who is better will never be raised.“We are better than an M.B.A. but our value is not yet paid according to it“Muskan

Romit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 10:17 pm e
Hello Mr. Naresh Vaid and others.
With due respect to all of you posting my next argument, let’s see the reaction now.
I still proove my point again. Your lone voice can not represent the entire community of CA’s. The difference remain the same and it will remain, because a CA act like a shield to an MBA. Read the points below:
1. An MBA can take all important decisions and have full control over the organization including a “CA”
2. Ever heard a CA represent an organisation any where else except financial matters.
Muskan for you.
Its realy sad that CA’s are undervalued and not paid high, the entire blame is on Indian system as here the wages are low.
It all depends upon the organisation chief to deciede who is the most valuable asset of the company a “CA” or a “MBA” and based on that they decide to pay.
Suggestions for all CA’s:
1. Knowledge: Does not mean that you have read many books and remember all the subjects, but it has more than that.
2. Being a sighning authority does not reflect that you can take the core decisions for the management of company.
3. Why not the institute works toward personality development of CA’s.
4. Why all CA’s carry negative attitude, I mean here only pointing out the wrong things or weak points.
Dont took me harsh, but I dont like the system where institute trained a CA in India. Life is beautiful and we should learn to enjoy it.
The core of a professional is allround development, open mind, aggressions, lively and positive.
its my 2c

shaily singahl Says: December 31st, 2005 at 2:22 pm e
hi, friendsthis is really a hot topic of debate, but there is no two opnion that CAs r 4times better than MBAs.there is no intelligence on arguging same, so dont waste time.we sould our work bcoz anything saying about the intelligence of CAs would similar to”suraj ko diya dikhana”

Gautam Says: December 31st, 2005 at 5:35 pm e
As shazia said that CA’s feel inferior to an MBA, its CA’s who have fuelled this debate.It seems that she doesnt have points to defend themselves.
It seems that Mr.Romit has underestimated Chartered Accountants in the field of Information Technology. Dear friend, our institute has launched HIGH END SPECIALISED COURSES in the field of IT. Also, it would be unfair to pin point the institute relating to their training programmes.
A CA gets exemption in various professional exams in India as well as abroad. This shows the credibility, reliability and recognition of the course contents. But, i haven’t heard any such exemption to an MBA.
To conclude, i would like to appreciate the views of Mr. Siddharth Surana, who says that instead of making it a debate, let both the professionals work together.
Gautam Khetan

shipra agrawal Says: January 1st, 2006 at 4:22 pm e
hello madhuri disagree with ur views.i no it is a debated topic but the amount of knowledge we possess mbsas dont possess even 1/3rd of it.n for the presentation skills it is a inbuilt thing of a person’s personality which gmcs will polish ne how.

Madhur Says: January 2nd, 2006 at 9:21 pm e
Shaily says Ca is 4 times better than Mba and shipra says CA has 3 times more knowlegde than MBa…m sure u people have some statistics to prove it….
But jokes apart…in todays world it realy doesnt matter who posseses more knowledge but what matters is who uses his skills the best..
Mr Naresh…it doesnt really matter who has the signing authority…as that authority has been confered by the law. Signing few papers and authenticating them does not make them a better professional. What matters is who pulls the threads and makes others dance to his tunes….
Romit has rightly pointed out that CAs are not IT savvy…i agree to it to some extent…but Mr romit…every MBA is not a charming dude…I have come across many MBA “DUDS” in my limited experience in corporate till date.
and guys…a 15 days prog is not at all sufficient to enhance all those skills which r drilled into an Mba in 3-4 years of his education.
Vrinda is right in sayin ‘We’ve got all that it takes, but we just need to channelise it in the right direction’. So freinds its upto us to groom us…accuire that charm…be suave and polised…accquire all those skills which makes one a better professional…
No degree or course can make anyone a better professional. It depends from individual to individual.
Madhur Khandelia

gaganbuttan Says: January 3rd, 2006 at 5:30 pm e
hi madhur i totally disagree with this.as it is said that exceptions are always therethats why it could be, that some mbas have done much better than ca,s but that doesn,t means that it is a general rule that mba,s are better than ca,s.Infact if compared in hardwork & intelligency we are far ahead than mba,s.yes but probably in presentation skills mba,s could be better than ca,s but thanks to institute for starting GMCS classes as it will be helpful in bridging the gap.

neeraj indoria Says: January 3rd, 2006 at 9:16 pm e
hi friends.i fail to understand that where does it comes to ur mind to compare these two professions.i wud say that each has its own uniqueness.where the profession of CA is more knowledge oriented the MBA curriculam concentrates on presentation.if at all i were to put my finger on one i wud say that CA is much better coz it is the one and only of its kind and the criteria of passing is such that only the best can clear it.mba may be tough to enter but very easy to clear as i hav been seeing.thanks.

Vrinda Mathur Says: January 9th, 2006 at 5:43 pm e
You know what guys,
It does’nt matter what course you’ve done. It’s what you yourself are without the degree attched to you. Education is one but not the sole indicator of how well you turn out in the professional arena.
When an MBA passes out, he has an inbuilt level of confidence, a CA has to develop it in the initial few months.
After that, it’s just what you are from within, ur ability to handle pressure, you’re ability to meet deadlines.
Thats the time to prove your worth!!!!!

Prashant Says: January 17th, 2006 at 8:46 pm e
CA v/s MBA: A question much debated by CAs rather than MBAs. Why? As one comment here puts it: ‘CAs probably feel insecure’. But Why should they? Do MBAs have more knowledge or brains than a CA.I don’t think so. So what does an MBA have? Two things, according to me: A broader perspective & a better perception. ..hmm sounds like MBA talk.Broader perspective? It simply means ‘looking things from both micro & macro levels and from all possible angles’ (did it sound like a formula from chemistry!) An MBA course in itself is very broad based. MBA students learn things from a variety of subjects including those related to their specialisation. The case studies, team work, presentations, summer projects,etc. are a definite plus and add to the softer skills of a to-be-manager. A potato can be mixed with any vegetable. Likewise an MBA can fit in more or less any function of an organization (please excuse the example as this is the only one which crossed my mind!) Its no surprise if an MBA with Finance specialization is seen designing promotion strategy for that new product.
Better perception. This means that an MBA perceives himself and is perceived by others as one complete packaged and ready to use product. Jo dikhta hai woh bikta hai bhai. MBA institutes not only market themselves to prospective students, they also market their students to the companies. Remember, an MBA carries weight in direct proportion to his or her Institute’s ranking. There must be atleast 10 MBAs passouts every year for one CA passout. Atleast eight out of these would not get a great career start because their institute was lesser known and so were they. So, perception plays a big role! I strongly feel that perception of CAs should be changed. They should not be ’seen’ as a guy jisko itna hi ATA (audit, tax, accounts) hai. I know CAs who are razor sharp and can make top-institute MBAs sweat. Its not as if they are not doing good in their careers. They are, pretty much. But, they could have probably done better only if they carried the right perception!
Would wind up with this line by a great personality-
Does not matter if you are a CA or MBA or…If one believes in himslef, great things can be achieved!
Disclaimer: These are personal thoughts of the writer and not intended to create trouble. The last line which you read is also writer!

Rajat Says: April 3rd, 2006 at 3:51 pm e
CA’s are simply better than MBA”s……! How ?? Here the debate ends…..CA course offers SECURITY as far as the future is concerned and more than anything else it also offers FLEXIBILITY in the sense that CA’s can either practice their PROFFESSION or go for a JOB…whereas MBA’s have no other option than going for NAUKRI(JOB)…!!

Anjan Says: April 8th, 2006 at 8:50 pm e
I think the CA + MBA combination is what the corporate world today really needs. A thorough mix of knowledge and presentation skills are required to suceed. The Institute should tie up with all the IIM’s in the country or on its own start a one year MBA programme exclusively for CA’s. This one year addition can push the CA into a different paradigm and make them unmatchable. Remember that a CA +IIM(A) graduate received the highest pay package in 2005 and sets a benchmark for others to follow.

rahul sharma:

Hi All CA VS MBA I think CA is much better option than MBA. First I donot like the way we guys are comparing the CA profession with MBA on the basis of the placement because we compare the overall MBA student in the Country getting placed after doing MBA compare there Job profile and salarly which they are getting. We will know the difference ( Here I am not counting the Top MBA college but every college which offer the MBA in India). Then if we want to see the skill set match with the MBA & CA profession. I still find the CA profession more sound than the MBA profession because in order to anaylse some thing you have to know your basic which MBA donot have it. Well You see the current CA Education it is much more better than the MBA profile. The only thing which is missing is we dont have the regular CA college. If we do have them. Then I dont even dream a career option like MBA can exist because at the end of the day no matter how big or small business. It is all about the money. Well I love to write more about it. I have some work to do. Well let's have an open debate on this.

CA V/s. MBA

CA Vs MBA
By Madhur

There has always been an ongoing debate in the Indian corporate world about who is a better professional out of a Chartered Accountant and a Mba. People have put forward various arguments in this context. Some say that an Mba being better equipped with skills such as presentation, communication, analytical etc turns out o be a better professional and others argue that a CA who is more thorough, intelligent and hard working is much better. But if the recent placements and campus recruitments etc are to be seen, Mbas turn out to be the winners. Further, the

Indian Inc has over a period shown more liking towards them.They certainly have scored over the Chartered Accountants in this regard.
So shall we all start believing that Mbas are better that us Chartered Accountants???????????
I invite your comments in this subject.

Madhur Khandelia
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29 Responses to “CA Vs Mba”

Vrinda Mathur Says: December 27th, 2005 at 2:13 pm e

This view seems to be entirely correct. The job prospects in the key banking sectors (Investment Banking, Treasury etc) are exclusively for top notch MBA intitutes(read the IIM’s). A CA’s resume will not even be shprtlisted for the same. Even though the kind of curriculum that we study is pure finance but the day to day skills of presentation, negotiation and communication are not incorporated in the curriculum itself. An MBA during his two years is taught in such a manner that the moment he qualifies, he is well equipped to enter the market with all the relevant skills (Including but not restricted to Finc

Vrinda Mathur Says: December 27th, 2005 at 2:24 pm e

This view seems to be entirely correct. The job prospects in the key banking sectors (Investment Banking, Treasury etc) are exclusively for top notch MBA intitutes(read the IIM’s). A CA’s resume will not even be shprtlisted for the same. Even though the kind of curriculum that we study is pure finance but the day to day skills of presentation, negotiation and communication are not incorporated in the curriculum itself. An MBA during his two years is taught in such a manner that the moment he qualifies, he is well equipped to enter the market with all the relevant skills (Including but not restricted to Finance unlike us)
For a plain CA, it therefore becomes necessary to supplement ur degree with either a full time MBA course or even a diatance learning programme…..
Why can’t the institute do something about this?

Gautam Khetan Says: December 27th, 2005 at 7:03 pm e

hi madhur,i totally disagree that mba’s are having an edge over the ca’s… i do agree that due to their presentation skills and the reputation, placement by their institutes they start high as compared to chartered accountants…But my dear friend let me throw a light on the fact that ca’s are the creators while mba’s just visualise and present it in a better way what ca’s create. u can visualise this with the help of any transaction entry… The ca’s enters a transactions, whereas the mba he just manipulates the figures and presents it in a better way, being entered by ca…. Thats all….Gautam Khetan

Siddarth Surana Says: December 28th, 2005 at 12:54 am e

The debate seems to be a fight similar to that which happened in between the two letters B and C. C says to B ” I am Cool and Competent, but you are Bad. You are always into Biting People, You bitch, bastard, black buffalo. Many times you have been Beaten down and still you are Barking…..” To this … B replied, ” I am beautiful and brilliant, but you are a Coward, you Cheater, you always remain Confused and have no clue why you are always Criticized…..”….the fight continued for a long time till they learnt their importance. ….Every individual has a role.. a very important role that he has to play… Be it a CA or an MBA. Both are equally dependent on each other. Without a CA, an MBA may not be able to manage the finances of his business as good as he could do with the help of a CA and yes definitely he is thorough, intelligent and hard working. On the other hand an MBA is more presentable, is good in communication and also succeeds in the analytical skill matrix. When the question arises about managing of a company and the people, processes and when talking about Motivation, Marketing, etc definitely an MBA scores far higher. ….

So it is important for us to think over the topic once again and think if it is really necessary to make one side score over the other…. What if they Move Ahead Together and benefit by sharing their complementary skills.

Siddarth Surana.IIMT- Oxford Brookes University,UK.Gurgaon.siddarthsurana@yahoo.com
rahul Says: December 28th, 2005 at 9:52 am e

I believe MBAs are in no way as competent as CAs when the criteria are of Knowledge and Skills. Though, I obviously agree that they are better placed in Corporate world because of there communication and inter personal skills.

In today’s world even rubbish can be sold on strength of packaging and marketing. Using there presentation skills MBAs are able to acquire better job positions with good corporates.
If CAs can develop these skills they will prove much better of than MBAs.
Sometime back, i heard that ICAI is planning to offer six months residential course at IIM, Bangalore for CAs on voluntary basis. This might turn out to be good step.

Madhur Says: December 28th, 2005 at 12:28 pm e

So my dear freind you agree that they have an edge…right?? And further you agree that CAs lack certain skills which Mbas possess…My dear freind…at the end of the day what matters is ..who is bringing home how much??? and there they are the clear winners..

Pranav Bhalla Says: December 28th, 2005 at 2:48 pm e

Yes Madhur i do agree with u. Actually we only concentrate on our syllabus our text books and acaedemics that we do not pay any attention to our presentation, communication skills and there we lack behind.We spend 3-4 years in studies only believing that its our knowledge only that counts but we forget that at the end of the day “jo dikhta hai wo bikta hai”. We lack in markeeting skills. we always have a better future prospective than MBAs but we dont know how to market ourselves. You cant compare an MBA with a CA as regards as knowledge is concerned but they definitely have an edge in confidence level and it is here only that they score.So i would like to suggest that if we pay a bit atention to PERSONALITY DEVELOPMENT we gonna have best of both the worlds.

Madhur Says: December 28th, 2005 at 4:39 pm e

There are 38 Chartered Accountants and i guess all of them agree to the fact that Mbas are better. See people, this is the difference between a CA and a Mba. Had this been a forum of professional Mbas….there would have been a war of words from them by now…..but we CAs are………………!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ankit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 12:15 am e

This has always been a debated issue!….But only in CA circuits.I wonder whether a B-school ever had such a topic for debate.The fact being,MBA is the “in” thing.The Top B-school Grads get salaries better than a Top CA.Moreover,they’ve got “brand names”(IIM being th best one),which perhaps a CA lacks.ICAI has failed to establish itself as a brand name.It has boiled down to just being a central “facilitator” for CA exams,not more than that.I fail to agree that better packaging sells MBAs more than a CA.I firmly believe that packaging gives just “an edge” and not more than that.& in this case,its more than just an edge.So,it has to be something more than the “packaging”.But,what i would also like everyone to take note of,is that there are many MBAs who are jobless,and there are many who do it for the sake of adding a degree to their “biodata”(The reason might be the sea of MBA colleges across the country).But,no one will ever come across a CA who does CA for the sake of his/her biodata.So,if we take out an All India Average,CAs might just turn out to be the winners!(will try to get statistics).Also,its a known fact that the knowledge content of a CA is better than a MBA.So,CA are the winners in this part too.In the end,I’d like to conclude that,when we talk about the Top,we dont take the averages,we just have to talk about the Top!….So,until & unless ,the top CAs command better salary than the Top MBAs ,& build a brand name for the profession & the institute….v’l always be No. 2.Its the ICAI which has to take the initiative.Are the guys listening?

Vrinda Mathur Says: December 29th, 2005 at 10:58 am e

We’ve got all that it takes, but we just need to channelise it in the right direction.
A year of post qualification experience can enable us acquire all the necessary skills that a successful manager should possess.

ankit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 1:14 pm e

Pranav said we need “Personality Development”.,and for the same reason, ICAI has launched the GMCS programmme.I hope Pranav will/has take/taken 200% benefit of the GMCS training…….wotsay Pranav…

ankit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 1:30 pm e

At present,..a Chartered Accountant might require an additional course of say 1 year (not more than that) to come at levels with a MBA….But this should not be the case in future..A chartered Accountant should not require any other course or qualification to come at par with a MBA…But once again,the onus lies on ICAI…..(V probably need some views from MBAs as well,try & get some MBAs guys.,,i’l try as well)

Uday Nair Says: December 29th, 2005 at 3:53 pm e

Hi…Madhur,Who’s better ? I think its a very relative subject/topic.There is no doubt that an individual really toils harder to become a CA than an MBA but at the same time one must also realise that an MBA aspirant works really hard to get into an a class institute and harder to get out of it with flying colours.

An MBA (Finance) definately commands better pay packs compared to the rival because the new stream of this professional qualification..MBA( compared to CA )overtook CA at a very crucial time when the market got overflooded with CAs(15-20yrs ago)…when this CA explosion in the market happened…it spelt disaster for the community as there were no jobs to match their qualification/salary & this happened because India had not opened its economic policy…there were hardly an corporate to accomodate the qualified CAs….at this point MBA gradually picked up & got an edge over CAs & have maintained a lead in terms of commanding a better price & position in a corporate….even though the work profile does not fall in sync with each other…at the end of the day…its who takes a better package & position…..initially when I mentioned relative….I meant every individual have their own opinion & corporates their requirement.To sum it up ….hope everyone knows WHO’s BETTER…!

Romit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 5:49 pm e

Needless to say who are better, every one knows. here are the comparisons:
Qualities:
MBA >> Learns the leadership from very begining.
CA >> Tought to do work under someone.
MBA >> Known for Team Work
CA >> Never work as a Team member
Personality:
MBA >> A charming dude
CA >> Blood hound under gogle
Public Appearance >>
People love an MBA and fear about non performance.
People afraid of an CA because he may scrutinize every thing of him.
Appraisals:
MBA is a degree accepted world wide. An MBA from an India is equivallent to MBA of USA
Where as
A CA of India can not be a CPA untill and unless he study again.
These are few points which should be taken under consideration
Last one very important !!!!!!!!!!!!
An MBA is more Net Savy than a CA and dont dare to present his views.

shazia khan Says: December 29th, 2005 at 5:50 pm e

CAs vs MBAs: the popping-up of this question at a site for CAs in itself makes it quite apparent that somewhere CAs themselves feel that they are in a way inferior to MBAs…but what I feel is that these are two different fields…both have got there own importance…where an MBA excels in presentation, communication etc, at the same time CAs have an upper hand when it comes to accounting, and details etc…such type of questions don’t occur to MBAs… Instead of comparing themselves to MBAs, CAs should rather work towards improving their presentation and communication skills so as to improve their overall personality…the Indian Inc requires both CAs and MBAs…Both have their own place and importance in their specific area of activity and weighing the two is not correct intellectually.Shazia KhanMBA-FORE School of Management

Naresh Vaid (ACA) Says: December 29th, 2005 at 6:47 pm e

The debate is useless because CAs have clear winning over the MBAs. They are better in the knowledge , experience ,expertness,and are hard working. They have an authority which is recognised not even by corporate world but by the world at large.No MBA has signing authority but even a new ACA having CP can sign and audit the finalcial papers of the corporate sector . These are accepted by the world at large. CAs command more respect and acceptability,and they can lend these things to the documents which they can certify by their signatures . No MBA command such authority.

Arun Says: December 29th, 2005 at 7:31 pm e

Heat is on need more inputs from CA’s…
Why not CA and MBA can work as a “Team”. My calculation is:
Determination + Hardwork + Dedication + Personality + Leadership + Teamwork = Win Win Situation for every one??

muskan Says: December 29th, 2005 at 8:23 pm e

Hello friendsI think the debate is really getting HOT… so I should also join in.See any tom,dick or harry can pass out from an MBA institute.but that`s not true in case of a C.A. Validity of our degree(related to the institute) cannot be questioned.Today MBA are one step ahead of us. But time doesnot remain same, surely after sometime we will be ahead of them.and i think our Institute has also reconized this fact. and the result is the G.M.C.S classes/(one step towards it).If some new changes incorporated then the question who is better will never be raised.“We are better than an M.B.A. but our value is not yet paid according to it“Muskan

Romit Says: December 29th, 2005 at 10:17 pm e

Hello Mr. Naresh Vaid and others.
With due respect to all of you posting my next argument, let’s see the reaction now.
I still proove my point again. Your lone voice can not represent the entire community of CA’s. The difference remain the same and it will remain, because a CA act like a shield to an MBA. Read the points below:
1. An MBA can take all important decisions and have full control over the organization including a “CA”
2. Ever heard a CA represent an organisation any where else except financial matters.
Muskan for you.
Its realy sad that CA’s are undervalued and not paid high, the entire blame is on Indian system as here the wages are low.
It all depends upon the organisation chief to deciede who is the most valuable asset of the company a “CA” or a “MBA” and based on that they decide to pay.
Suggestions for all CA’s:
1. Knowledge: Does not mean that you have read many books and remember all the subjects, but it has more than that.
2. Being a sighning authority does not reflect that you can take the core decisions for the management of company.
3. Why not the institute works toward personality development of CA’s.
4. Why all CA’s carry negative attitude, I mean here only pointing out the wrong things or weak points.
Dont took me harsh, but I dont like the system where institute trained a CA in India. Life is beautiful and we should learn to enjoy it.
The core of a professional is allround development, open mind, aggressions, lively and positive.
its my 2c

shaily singahl Says: December 31st, 2005 at 2:22 pm e

hi, friendsthis is really a hot topic of debate, but there is no two opnion that CAs r 4times better than MBAs.there is no intelligence on arguging same, so dont waste time.we sould our work bcoz anything saying about the intelligence of CAs would similar to”suraj ko diya dikhana”

Gautam Says: December 31st, 2005 at 5:35 pm e

As shazia said that CA’s feel inferior to an MBA, its CA’s who have fuelled this debate.It seems that she doesnt have points to defend themselves.
It seems that Mr.Romit has underestimated Chartered Accountants in the field of Information Technology. Dear friend, our institute has launched HIGH END SPECIALISED COURSES in the field of IT. Also, it would be unfair to pin point the institute relating to their training programmes.

A CA gets exemption in various professional exams in India as well as abroad. This shows the credibility, reliability and recognition of the course contents. But, i haven’t heard any such exemption to an MBA.

To conclude, i would like to appreciate the views of Mr. Siddharth Surana, who says that instead of making it a debate, let both the professionals work together.
Gautam Khetan

shipra agrawal Says: January 1st, 2006 at 4:22 pm e

hello madhuri disagree with ur views.i no it is a debated topic but the amount of knowledge we possess mbsas dont possess even 1/3rd of it.n for the presentation skills it is a inbuilt thing of a person’s personality which gmcs will polish ne how.

Madhur Says: January 2nd, 2006 at 9:21 pm e

Shaily says Ca is 4 times better than Mba and shipra says CA has 3 times more knowlegde than MBa…m sure u people have some statistics to prove it….
But jokes apart…in todays world it realy doesnt matter who posseses more knowledge but what matters is who uses his skills the best..

Mr Naresh…it doesnt really matter who has the signing authority…as that authority has been confered by the law. Signing few papers and authenticating them does not make them a better professional. What matters is who pulls the threads and makes others dance to his tunes….
Romit has rightly pointed out that CAs are not IT savvy…i agree to it to some extent…but Mr romit…every MBA is not a charming dude…I have come across many MBA “DUDS” in my limited experience in corporate till date.

and guys…a 15 days prog is not at all sufficient to enhance all those skills which r drilled into an Mba in 3-4 years of his education.

Vrinda is right in sayin ‘We’ve got all that it takes, but we just need to channelise it in the right direction’. So freinds its upto us to groom us…accuire that charm…be suave and polised…accquire all those skills which makes one a better professional…

No degree or course can make anyone a better professional. It depends from individual to individual.

Madhur Khandelia

gaganbuttan Says: January 3rd, 2006 at 5:30 pm e

hi madhur i totally disagree with this.as it is said that exceptions are always therethats why it could be, that some mbas have done much better than ca,s but that doesn,t means that it is a general rule that mba,s are better than ca,s.Infact if compared in hardwork & intelligency we are far ahead than mba,s.yes but probably in presentation skills mba,s could be better than ca,s but thanks to institute for starting GMCS classes as it will be helpful in bridging the gap.

neeraj indoria Says: January 3rd, 2006 at 9:16 pm e

hi friends.i fail to understand that where does it comes to ur mind to compare these two professions.i wud say that each has its own uniqueness.where the profession of CA is more knowledge oriented the MBA curriculam concentrates on presentation.if at all i were to put my finger on one i wud say that CA is much better coz it is the one and only of its kind and the criteria of passing is such that only the best can clear it.mba may be tough to enter but very easy to clear as i hav been seeing.thanks.

Vrinda Mathur Says: January 9th, 2006 at 5:43 pm e

You know what guys,
It does’nt matter what course you’ve done. It’s what you yourself are without the degree attched to you. Education is one but not the sole indicator of how well you turn out in the professional arena.

When an MBA passes out, he has an inbuilt level of confidence, a CA has to develop it in the initial few months.

After that, it’s just what you are from within, ur ability to handle pressure, you’re ability to meet deadlines.

Thats the time to prove your worth!!!!!

Prashant Says: January 17th, 2006 at 8:46 pm e
CA v/s MBA: A question much debated by CAs rather than MBAs. Why? As one comment here puts it: ‘CAs probably feel insecure’. But Why should they? Do MBAs have more knowledge or brains than a CA.I don’t think so. So what does an MBA have? Two things, according to me: A broader perspective & a better perception. ..hmm sounds like MBA talk.Broader perspective? It simply means ‘looking things from both micro & macro levels and from all possible angles’ (did it sound like a formula from chemistry!) An MBA course in itself is very broad based. MBA students learn things from a variety of subjects including those related to their specialisation. The case studies, team work, presentations, summer projects,etc. are a definite plus and add to the softer skills of a to-be-manager. A potato can be mixed with any vegetable. Likewise an MBA can fit in more or less any function of an organization (please excuse the example as this is the only one which crossed my mind!) Its no surprise if an MBA with Finance specialization is seen designing promotion strategy for that new product.

Better perception. This means that an MBA perceives himself and is perceived by others as one complete packaged and ready to use product. Jo dikhta hai woh bikta hai bhai. MBA institutes not only market themselves to prospective students, they also market their students to the companies. Remember, an MBA carries weight in direct proportion to his or her Institute’s ranking. There must be atleast 10 MBAs passouts every year for one CA passout. Atleast eight out of these would not get a great career start because their institute was lesser known and so were they. So, perception plays a big role! I strongly feel that perception of CAs should be changed. They should not be ’seen’ as a guy jisko itna hi ATA (audit, tax, accounts) hai. I know CAs who are razor sharp and can make top-institute MBAs sweat. Its not as if they are not doing good in their careers. They are, pretty much. But, they could have probably done better only if they carried the right perception!

Would wind up with this line by a great personality-

Does not matter if you are a CA or MBA or…If one believes in himslef, great things can be achieved!

Disclaimer: These are personal thoughts of the writer and not intended to create trouble. The last line which you read is also writer!

Rajat Says: April 3rd, 2006 at 3:51 pm e

CA’s are simply better than MBA”s……! How ?? Here the debate ends…..CA course offers SECURITY as far as the future is concerned and more than anything else it also offers FLEXIBILITY in the sense that CA’s can either practice their PROFFESSION or go for a JOB…whereas MBA’s have no other option than going for NAUKRI(JOB)…!!

Anjan Says: April 8th, 2006 at 8:50 pm e

I think the CA + MBA combination is what the corporate world today really needs. A thorough mix of knowledge and presentation skills are required to suceed. The Institute should tie up with all the IIM’s in the country or on its own start a one year MBA programme exclusively for CA’s. This one year addition can push the CA into a different paradigm and make them unmatchable. Remember that a CA +IIM(A) graduate received the highest pay package in 2005 and sets a benchmark for others to follow.

rahul sharma [rahuls003@yahoo.com]

Hi All

CA VS MBA

I think CA is much better option than MBA. First I donot like the way we guys are comparing the CA profession with MBA on the basis of the placement because we compare the overall MBA student in the Country getting placed after doing MBA compare there Job profile and salarly which they are getting. We will know the difference ( Here I am not counting the Top MBA college but every college which offer the MBA in India).
Then if we want to see the skill set match with the MBA & CA profession. I still find the CA profession more sound than the MBA profession because in order to anaylse some thing you have to know your basic which MBA donot have it. Well You see the current CA Education it is much more better than the MBA profile. The only thing which is missing is we dont have the regular CA college. If we do have them. Then I dont even dream a career option like MBA can exist because at the end of the day no matter how big or small business. It is all about the money. Well I love to write more about it. I have some work to do. Well let's have an open debate on this.